
Greetings all, As it stands, the dalnet-src mailing list is filtered. Back before end-user spam solutions were more prevalent, this made a fair bit of sense. These days I'm not so sure. Would anyone have any problem with moving this list to an unmoderated list? It would make discussion quicker. Thoughts, comments? -epi

One of the list settings we have enabled is "only subscribers can post." This will practically block all spam type things. I'm not sure of the history as far as why the list is moderated in addition to subscriber-limited. Personally, I'd be fine with it being unmoderated. -- Joe On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Aaron Wiebe <epiphani@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
As it stands, the dalnet-src mailing list is filtered. Back before end-user spam solutions were more prevalent, this made a fair bit of sense. These days I'm not so sure.
Would anyone have any problem with moving this list to an unmoderated list? It would make discussion quicker.
Thoughts, comments?
-epi _______________________________________________ DALnet-src mailing list DALnet-src@lists.dal.net https://lists.dal.net/mailman/listinfo/dalnet-src

Think, it should be fine being unmoderated. ---- On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Joe Eversole <joe@recompiled.org> wrote:
One of the list settings we have enabled is "only subscribers can post." This will practically block all spam type things. I'm not sure of the history as far as why the list is moderated in addition to subscriber-limited.
Personally, I'd be fine with it being unmoderated.
-- Joe
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Aaron Wiebe <epiphani@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
As it stands, the dalnet-src mailing list is filtered. Back before end-user spam solutions were more prevalent, this made a fair bit of sense. These days I'm not so sure.
Would anyone have any problem with moving this list to an unmoderated list? It would make discussion quicker.
Thoughts, comments?
-epi _______________________________________________ DALnet-src mailing list DALnet-src@lists.dal.net https://lists.dal.net/mailman/listinfo/dalnet-src
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-- ☼- Fahad Meer -☼

Subscribers may have spam filtering, but I wouldn't rely on it totally -- for one thing, spam should be kept out of any dalnet-src archives.. I prefer to be able to whitelist mailing list messages. If users of services like 'yahoo' actually got bad messages, and chose 'report spam', it could hurt dal.net's reputation in those services (as dal.net mail servers relayed the spam) I would think postings from subscribers and possibly other known-good addresses should be made to almost always pass straight through. Whereas attempts by unknown non-subscribers to post should either require approval or still be filtered, with the sender receiving an error message indicating they need to subscribe. If spam from subscribers was a problem, well: I know some mailing list management software permits 'new subscribers' (or specific subscribers) to be moderated, and I would suggest looking into that option, Long-term discussion participants would have already gone through that one-time moderation for first post and already been made unmoderated. But some bot subscribing just to spam would run into problems. -- -Mysid

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:00 PM, James Hess <mysidia@gmail.com> wrote:
Subscribers may have spam filtering, but I wouldn't rely on it totally -- for one thing, spam should be kept out of any dalnet-src archives.. I prefer to be able to whitelist mailing list messages. If users of services like 'yahoo' actually got bad messages, and chose 'report spam', it could hurt dal.net's reputation in those services (as dal.net mail servers relayed the spam)
I will be keeping a close eye on it. All mail coming into the lists gets passed over with SpamAssassin and a few other utilities. All posts from non-members get moderated. Anything tagged as spam by the filtering utilities gets moderated. The list has been unmoderated for the past couple days. If it becomes problematic, we'll re-adjust. -- Joe, DALnet postmaster extraordinaire

James Hess wrote:
I would think postings from subscribers and possibly other known-good addresses should be made to almost always pass straight through.
Whereas attempts by unknown non-subscribers to post should either require approval or still be filtered, with the sender receiving an error message indicating they need to subscribe.
That is the way it would be if we disabled moderation, so it should be alright and save us from pretty much all spam while encouraging and supporting active and fast discussions. -- /ahnberg.
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Aaron Wiebe
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Fahad Meer
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James Hess
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Joe
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Joe Eversole
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Mattias Ahnberg