On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:01 PM, PapaSmurf <freedried@yahoo.com> wrote:
Kobi: Thanks for the reply to the post. I replied, and thought it went to the mailing list.
Everyone: I started playing with NS/CS access one day and found some peculiarities. Kobi and DALnet now know of them, and I am pleased. Hopefully the bugs I pointed out will be fixed for the next services release.
I posted to the helpers@ mailing list yesterday, and I found that the initial to welcome message from dalnet hasn't been updated since 1996. At the beginning of the email, it says to post to the helpers list, to mail to Helpers@lists.dal.net -- Well, you will get the email sent back; only helpers@lists.dal.net (lowercase h) works.
I am not sure if dalnet-services@ is the same way, but the same syntax is there...
Welcome to the DALnet-services@lists.dal.net mailing list!
Anyway, I hope we can generate more threads here. I believe there is a lot to discuss (to make services better).
Myself, I'd like to see HelpServ completely overhauled. The information within is way too obsolete... Maybe I will start a thread next about it. Stay tuned. ;)
As for the rest of you, start posting some threads on the general mailing lists. We are here to make DALnet better; to discuss possible improvements.
PapaSmurf
If your emails are being bounced due case sensitivity with the list address, then there are deeper issues looming than the welcome message being sent. While RFC 2821 does state that the local part of an email address (e.g. the username portion), almost no email provider or ISP follows this, since it creates a lot of confusion and interoperability issues. Rather than change the welcome message (which is actually correct, in that it is using the list name as configured in MailMan (https://lists.dal.net/mailman/listinfo)), a better solution would be to "fix" the current implementation so it handles this gracefully. Now, granted I haven't been active on the network for quite sometime (but do still occasionally follow these lists), so things may have changed a lot, but HelpServ was originally an ircII help service, containing the help files for the ircII client (which were normally a separate package from the client itself). While not all the information it contains is obsolete, it is likely to be of little use to users of other clients (which is the majority of most of IRC users today, heh). -SecretAgent