The argument of "bug" vs "enhancement" can go on forever. It's an argument taking place between some QA department and software department in almost every engineering company in North America, every day :)
This one's pretty straight forward: It's a crappy user experience, so we're looking to fix it, as per Kobi's previous note. There's no need to debate it anymore. 
For SRA,-mjs


On 2010-05-19, at 9:17 AM, Vin King wrote:
It's not a bug. That's been clearly defined. It is currently working as originally designed, to check when people join.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:39 AM, ammar yousef <jojo2000co@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello there,

I'm agree with you all, this is a bug and the DALnet coders must do something like when someone change his nickname while he's in the channel and that nickname is in the chanserv akick list, to kick him out.

regarding if the nickname is not identified, the chanserv must check "after posting the identification command" the user if he's already in the akick list and kick him if he's exists there.


Yes it's a bug.


Regards,


Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:33:45 +0500
Subject: Re: [DALnet-services] Bug in (ChanServ)
From: zapp@channelpakistan.net
To: key@theirc.net
CC: dalnet-services@dal.net; vin.king@gmail.com

Mr Key the command you mention for nick ban (nick!*@*) is only work when User Join the channel with same nick. -ChanServ- allow User's to come with different nick and after join the channel -ChanServ- is not going to verify akick User's (Added in akick List) to kick them out from the channel. akicked nick's still allow in the channel coz bot auto unban the list of +b User's. They are able to join the channel with different nick and after join the channel they are able to set that akick nick ( Added in akick list). -ChanServ- Should Ban akick User's, Does'nt matter If User change his/her nick after joining the channel or before join the channel. So i am not agree with you. And still its a bug for me.

And Mr Vin king, Dalnet allow Us to  identified with nick, there is no INTERNET PROTOCOL RESTRICTION (IPR), We are allow to identified nick's with any ip/hostmask. So no way to add host in the akick list instead of nicks.Our identity is nick not hostmask. Yes i added host/mask too but rarely. when i see that user continuosly flood Abuse with same ip/mask.  I already Discussed it with Dalnet staff regarding Host/Masking coz of continuosly nuking. Will see what happen.

  On 5/13/10, key <key@theirc.net> wrote:

What you’re referring to is not a bug. The command is working as designed. Adding an akick by nick works on identified users only, and only on join. If you want to akick the nick regardless of identification, you can use nick!*@*. If you want the user to be kicked after identifying post-join, that is an enhancement request, not a bug.

 

-key

 

From: dalnet-src-bounces@lists.dal.net [mailto:dalnet-src-bounces@lists.dal.net] On Behalf Of zapp
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:40 PM
To: Vin King
Cc: Yoba@dal.net; dalnet-src@dal.net; dalnet-services@dal.net
Subject: Re: [DALnet-src] Bug in (ChanServ)

 

Dalnet is allow to register nick not host/mask. So why i just put IP/HOST in akick instead of nick . They Use proxy Servers , Some ip mask change in C range B range so i am not going to discuss about ip/mask i am just asking about nick. If nick is in akick and the User joined with same nick. -ChanServ- should ban him/her . 

+  after identified(CONFIRMED THAT HE OWNS THE NICK) still ChanServ allow that User on channel. So its a bug. Read my previous email carefuly i already mention that After confirmed(IDENTIFIED), -ChanServ- Allow him to stay on my channel  

  On 5/13/10, Vin King <vin.king@gmail.com> wrote:

If you akick the hostmask of the user instead of their registered nick, then they would be akicked regardless of if they identify to a nick or not.

Take into consideration that if someone on dialup has a registered nick, and does not identify to it the next time they connect. Their IP address would be different than the last time they connected, and ChanServ wouldn't be able to identify them as the registered nick owner.

When you add just a registered nick to akick it can only akick if it confirms that the person in question owns the nick. If you akick based on hostmask, it won't matter.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM, zapp <zapp@channelpakistan.net> wrote:

Hello Again,
           Today i am here to tell you people that there is a bug in -ChanServ- . I am the Sop on #Pakistan and today when i just add User in akick list. -ChanServ- allow him to join my channel because the User was'nt identified While joined the channel. After Joined the channel he identified his nick and chat like a simple user. ChanServ allow him on Channel. It does'nt matter User is identified or not Chanserv should akick him/her identified or without identified or atleast identified. So i just consider it as a bug and Discuss it with Kobi_S. He also consider it as a bug.

Hope you people look into it.

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